version2 said:i recommend q8 over motul.
whatdamn said:q8 gives the same (dare i say better) performance as most of the branded stuff out there. but a word of caution though, according to tony(q8 supplier) if it's ur first time using q8, u should change after about 3k km because the q8 has slight detergent qualities to clean ur engine internals la. so after that change u might notice the old q8 oil might be full of random crap. but it's good stuff. umm, q8 oils are available almost every nook and crany of sunway la haha.
mugen9 said:Selenia 20k...to me,better compared those two...