Mivec 1.8

[lancelot_adolph]

dear ppl,

currently driving sgti,

planning to upgrade to 1.8 mivec,

any sifu knows which+ where workshop recommend? price?

cause heard hard to get the mivec top itself, been searching

like hell...

thanx

 

[monmon]

it won't be easy to find a mivec head. but u could try, i guess no workshop will go around sourcing for u. u could try these guys if u r interested, they're quite ok.

hispeed racing. they are located near tesco at puchong. experienced but new workshop. the mechanics use to be at amoil.

 

[lancelot_adolph]

hey mon mon,

yeah... that's my problem too, surfin around for '

da mivec head, but no one has it, most chop shop

says they only sell in whole engine.

and the other thing im quite worry of the

condition of the head, hard to find replacement...

plz help

 

[monmon]

its not easy to find at all. i dun think i got any "lobangs" for this. what u could do is just keep asking around. or source it overseas as well, or make an order with a chop shop so that they'll pay attention for one. it depends how desperate u r for it. i always believe money can buy everything. hahah or u could buy the half cut if u had the money, and sell off the rest, mivec has so many stuff ppl want. in the end, i really think it won't become a lot more expensive really hehhe.

 

[putera9394]

Originally posted by lancelot_adolph@Nov 25 2004, 16:28
dear ppl,

currently driving sgti,

planning to upgrade to 1.8 mivec,

any sifu knows which+ where workshop recommend? price?

cause heard hard to get the mivec top itself, been searching

like hell...

thanx

I don't understand why u want to change to mivec 1.8. Your GTi engine can also achieve the same (if not better) WHP. I' driving a GTi with minor mods (cams, CAI & exhaust only - no oversize piston ir what so ever) . :rolleyes:

Spent about 4K and I got 135WHP at DMT dyno machine. No safc or stand alone ecu. A similar moded mivec 1.8 will give around 130WHP at DMT dyno machine. The mivec's 0-100km/j is 7.2 sec, mine is 6.7 sec ( that is ITR territory). :lol:

With another 2.5K( u have to search around for a good and low budget workshop - not like in Sunway - potong kepala) I will add another 25 - 35WHP. Think again men. Oh by the way, slightly moded mivec 1.6 or B16A all senang kena tapau by my GTi. Sorry to say but it's true. Highly moded lain cerita. Just want to share my experience. ok :P

 

[alien]

..hmm..tis mivec 1.8.. practically it's another mivec engine w a different head izzit?
..or sumtin else..? can enlighten me..sifus?

 

[gibod_78]

nope.. mivec 1.8 is rojak basis.. mivec originally only 1.6cc in mirage and 2.0cc in FTO.. and heard got new mivec soch..

but usually.. mivec 1.6 then add in 1.8 block..
or
1.8 doch engine... then add in mivec head.. itu saja.. :D

putera.. apo khabo.. ? how yr car now?.. sihat?. :D

 

[monmon]

i totally disagree with putera9394.

0-100 6.7 sec? i would like to see that. did u do it with the jack on the car?
135hp sounds right, standard comes 121hp (As i dynoed it at speedworks) i achieved 164hp after some $10k later. (no cams, no extractor mod)

to say i would take the mivec with ease, i wouldn't think so. i have owned both vehicles, and i would say the mivec's a much stronger vehicle with hell a lot more potential. i think any mechanic would be able to tell you that.

 

[evoinputra]

in OUG there have a workshop name S & K Service. i think the work is quite good cos i do port and polish and fully convert to 1.6 mivec things to my 1.8 mivec. before i even 1.6 small V also can't over take but after i do the upgrade 1.6 big V and modified also close a eye. there have a 1.8 mivec.

 

[chelnick]

..... putera... got a friend 1.8mivec.... modded internals(its a everyday car not heavily modded)

170whp.......

don't ask me to bring him out to show ok??? beceause his car is now 1.8 mivec turbo.... ;)

 

[monmon]

evoinputra, now what u have just said is very confusing. i am nto able to make out what you've just done to your car.

u can overtake a bigV? in this assume its a B16A/B... that's really great to hear. they must have given you some 180hp on the wheel!!!

 

[gspot]

Originally posted by putera9394+Nov 26 2004, 12:37 -->

QUOTE (putera9394 @ Nov 26 2004, 12:37 )

--QuoteBegin-lancelot_adolph

@Nov 25 2004, 16:28 dear ppl, currently driving sgti, planning to upgrade to 1.8 mivec, any sifu knows which+ where workshop recommend? price? cause heard hard to get the mivec top itself, been searching like hell... thanx

I don't understand why u want to change to mivec 1.8. Your GTi engine can also achieve the same (if not better) WHP. I' driving a GTi with minor mods (cams, CAI & exhaust only - no oversize piston ir what so ever) . :rolleyes: Spent about 4K and I got 135WHP at DMT dyno machine. No safc or stand alone ecu. A similar moded mivec 1.8 will give around 130WHP at DMT dyno machine. The mivec's 0-100km/j is 7.2 sec, mine is 6.7 sec ( that is ITR territory). :lol: With another 2.5K( u have to search around for a good and low budget workshop - not like in Sunway - potong kepala) I will add another 25 - 35WHP. Think again men. Oh by the way, slightly moded mivec 1.6 or B16A all senang kena tapau by my GTi. Sorry to say but it's true. Highly moded lain cerita. Just want to share my experience. ok :P [/b][/quote] Putera, U r using mild 268 or hot 272 cams? My long ago dyno at DMT.. some mods with no cams already getting 130 atw. Done a coupla dynos with Mivec 1.8, in "stock 1.8Mivec" form already getting at least 150atw. Mine and a friend's already doing 160++ and my other friend's already pushing 170+ and that is achieved without Jun or Toda cams...

 

[gspot]

Lancelot,

U dead serious on getting the Mivec head and a good tuner to do the job?
I may have some leads.........

 

[monmon]

thanks gspot, u really hit my g spot hahahahha

that's the thing, i cannot imagine a mivec being weak. it's also a very reliable engine to be driving. unlike the B16A/B which are prone to "boooms"

the 1.8mivec has long been well known for its power. mind pm'ing me where u got ur cams from? i've just seen a set of was it 303/306 cams from my friends car. surprisingly they were not getting much on the dyno at links.

i should imagine them running real quick. with haltech and MSD ignition....etc.

 

[gspot]

Originally posted by monmon@Nov 26 2004, 15:04
thanks gspot, u really hit my g spot hahahahha

that's the thing, i cannot imagine a mivec being weak. it's also a very reliable engine to be driving. unlike the B16A/B which are prone to "boooms"

the 1.8mivec has long been well known for its power. mind pm'ing me where u got ur cams from? i've just seen a set of was it 303/306 cams from my friends car. surprisingly they were not getting much on the dyno at links.

i should imagine them running real quick. with haltech and MSD ignition....etc.

Mon,
303/306? Found the cams a wee bit too wild for a daily performance workhorse..am surprised that it's not getting the numbers. Tuning and corresponding add-ons parts not working in sync?? :(

Well, any engine can just go boom if push beyond the limits without the corresponding "support"..... ;)

Well... have seen a halteched 4g63 lost to a stock ECUed VR4 in a quarter mile
test sprint....not once but all three times :o

 

[monmon]

very true. it's all science here. :D

i have just realised the links dyno gives a low result, speedworks tend to give higher ones. maybe the units are different. anyhow, i also heard them talking later about in reality it's about 200hp blah blah, perhaps that's on engine. they had a conversion which shows u on wheel and on engine?

they were also saying standard mivec claims some 170hp, that's prob on engine... blah blah. god knows, i just know my car feel alright to me, but the hp reading damn low hehehe.

 

[chelnick]

lol... MITSUBISHI claims 165bhp for mivec......

we're definately getting less then that...

PROTON claims 140bhp (first gen GTI)

if you put it on paper.... our mivec's should be a faster then GTI's...

but if you dyno... then you'll see the result......

 

[gspot]

Wonders of auto engineering and marketing....
Makes you wonder like nuts! :D

 

[monmon]

i did my mivec transplant a month back. stock gave me 124hp reading at links power.

my stock gti at speedworks 3 yrs back gave me 121hp. there u go.

after i spent 5k at speedworks with their works b4. (full exhaust system, itc afc, k&n, heat shied...) i got a 148hp reading.

pretty much sold off everything i got from speedworks within the month, and went for the works offered by active power (already close shop if u didn't know hahaha)
port polish, lightened, balanced, back to standard exhaust manifold (to conform with proton production race then). straight thru muffler. fuel pump upsize, fuel regulator, rechip, high compression pistons (which i think they used the 1.6 pistons), cam pulleys... i think engine wise that's all. got 158hp.

tambah a bit of racing fuel, and a bit of fine tuned here and there, hit 164 at one stage. until someone fucked up the block, long story the 2nd part hahahaha

 

[chelnick]

haha i did my mivec transplant 2months back...

by middle of next year gonna finish blueprinting and PnP....

see what else i can do to the engine...

i'm trying to avoid going 1.8 mivec ;)